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Post by LloydK Tue Dec 02, 2014 4:27 am

Chemtrails (Split from) Global Warming / Climategate
http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=4748

Postby Lloyd » Sun Apr 03, 2011 6:03 pm
Chemtrails as Screening
* I don't believe contrails last more than a few minutes. I think the ones that linger for hours are chemtrails that are said to contain aluminum, barium salts, lead, mercury, mycoplasma, mold spores and other toxins, like ethylene dibromide. Will Thomas says the military now also is spraying out nano-size radio-controlled chips in chemtrails. See http://www.helpfreetheearth.com/news34_chemtrails.html.
* This site http://www.lightwatcher.com/chemtrails/smoking_gun.html mentions an online book on global warming, called Policy Implications of Greenhouse Warming: Mitigation, Adaptation, and the Science Base (1992), by Committee on Science, Engineering, and Public Policy at http://books.nap.edu/books/0309043867/html/index.html, which says on Page 447:

   Screening Out Some Sunlight
   Another option for mitigating a global warming would be to try to control the global radiation balance by limiting the amount of incoming radiation from the sun. This could be done by increasing the reflectivity of the earth, i.e., the albedo. Proposals for increasing the whiteness of roofs and surface features would have some effect, but only a fraction of incident solar radiation reaches the earth's surface and a purposeful change in albedo would have more impact if done high in the atmosphere. According to Ramanathan (1988), an increase in planetary albedo of just 0.5 percent is sufficient to halve the effect of a CO2 doubling. Placing a screen in the atmosphere or low earth orbit could take several forms: it could involve changing the quantity or character of cloud cover, it could take the form of a continuous sheet, or it could be divided into many ''mirrors" or a cloud of dust. Preliminary characterizations of some of the possibilities that might be considered are provided below.

Screening Doesn't Work
* Since that was written in 1992, it's plausible that part of the purpose of chemtrails has been to screen out solar radiation. But, as seen on Mars in 2001 with its global dust storm, screening can actually increase warming as it did on Mars at that time. And I think the way it happens is that the atmosphere becomes more conductive, so electrical energy is conducted more easily to the planet where it heats it up somewhat. So, if chemtrails were meant to reduce global warming by screening out sunlight, the effort may have backfired, although I don't know that the chemtrail effect has actually been all that significant, compared to the increase in solar energy during the 90s. But it's worth considering.

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Postby Goldminer » Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:20 am
Sorry, double P Paladin, I have to weigh in with double L Lloyd on this one. I have a close friend who works for this outfit, and verified the details.
http://aircrap.org/chemtrail-polymers-linked-to-morgellons-disease/33328/
http://www.activistpost.com/2011/01/evergreen-aviation-admits-to-chemtrail.html

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Postby Lloyd » Sat Jun 18, 2011 9:27 pm
* PP, chemtrail scholars are not [all] dopes. The book I referenced earlier on geo-engineering to mitigate climate change was written in part by a government agency, the NAS. On the NAS website at http://www.nasonline.org it says:

   The NAS was established by an Act of Congress that was signed by President Abraham Lincoln on March 3, 1863, at the height of the Civil War, which calls upon the NAS to "investigate, examine, experiment, and report upon any subject of science or art" whenever called upon to do so by any department of the government.

* At the chemtrails site ( http://www.lightwatcher.com/chemtrails/smoking_gun.html ), which mentioned the book, it says in more detail:

   - Some months ago, a Chemtrail insider that Brian nicknamed 'Deep Shield' came forward with specific and detailed information about this mysterious program, corresponding with him via e-mail. A transcript of the communications with Deep Shield and the Shield Project can be read online at: http://www.holmestead.ca/chemtrails/shieldproject.html. For those of us who have studied chemtrails carefully, the revealing dialog rang of the truth.
   - Since then we have been able to study, and verify a number of Deep Shield's primary claims. The anonymous insider gave Brian's readers some valuable clues to follow if they wished to investigate deeper into the history and hard science of chemtrails. A primary clue was to investigate the term 'geoengineering.'
   - One investigator took the clues provided by 'Deep Shield' and dug in. She eventually found an N.A.S. study on Geoengineering and the Mitigation of Global Warming. This study is still available online and is also available in hardcover. This massive document validates the insider information provided by Deep Shield, and has lead to an additional gold mine of evidence.
   - This massive research study is entitled: Policy Implications of Greenhouse Warming: Mitigation, Adaptation, and the Science Base - Panel on Policy Implications of Greenhouse Warming, sponsored by the National Academy of Sciences, National Academy of Engineering, and the Institute of Medicine. The results were presented in 1992 and published in book form in 2000 by the National Academy Press. This 994 page study is the textbook on greenhouse gasses, global warming, policy decisions and mitigation's (corrective measures). Included within is the hard science many chemtrails researchers have been searching for: the scientists, agencies, institutions and corporations involved, cost factors, chemical formula, mathematical modeling, delivery methods, policies, recruiting of foreign governments, acquisition of materials, and the manufacturing of aerosol compounds, etc.
   - Policy Implications of Global Warming - This entire volume can presently be read online at: http://books.nap.edu/books/0309043867/html/index.html.

* Why are some not believing that this government book was talking about using weather or climate modification with aerosols, i.e. chemtrails, to supposedly mitigate global warming?

   - Keep in mind that this study is only the tip of the iceberg. Literally hundreds of papers on related topics have been published in scientific journals. We don't expect this featured study to remain online for long once the cat is out of the bag. So do check it out soon.
   - The full involvement of foremost government agencies, research firms, universities and private corporations are detailed in this global 'geoengineering' study. Keep in mind that this was approved by and funded by Congress. We expect that this documentation will bolster the beliefs of most hardcore chemtrail believers. It will also continue to undermining what little trust still remains in our leaders and their institutions. This documentation proves that they have lied repeatedly about their involvement and the existence of chemtrail spraying programs.
   - It alsp appears that we 'Chemtrail' investigators have been chasing our tails, being intentionally discredited, maligned, and fed disinformation to keep the actual truth just below the levels of media perception. The real story has been taking place in broad daylight, safely concealed under the scientific umbrella of 'Geoengineering and intentional climate change.'
   - Chemtrails are just one of the 'mitigations' proposed to Geoengineering our planet. Once we began sifting through the numerous studies, experiments and papers written on intentional climate change, we found a wealth of supporting evidence of well funded global atmospheric modification programs. One such paper is Geoengineering: A Climate Change Manhattan Project http://www.metatronics.net/lit/geo2.html#two (Jay Michaelson, published in the Stanford Environmental Law Journal, January, 1998)
   - The author makes a very convincing case for the pressing need of undertaking geoengineering projects. He argues that regulation, environmental laws and other stumbling blocks limit our ability to directly address the dangers that threaten us directly and immediately. He writes: "The projected insufficiency of Kyoto's emission reduction regime, and the problems of absence, cost, and incentives discussed in part II, cry out for an alternative to our present state of climate change policy myopia."
   - "Geoengineering--intentional, human-directed manipulation of the Earth's climatic systems--may be such an alternative. This part proposes that, unlike a regulatory "Marshall Plan" of costly emissions reductions, technology subsidies, and other mitigation measures, a non-regulatory "Manhattan Project" geared toward developing feasible geoengineering remedies for climate change can meaningfully close the gaps in global warming and avert many of its most dire consequences."

* There's more, but that should make the case.

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