Botany Project - testing charge channeling through plants
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Botany Project - testing charge channeling through plants
Hi folks, here is a simple project and test I've been working towards for a little while now and finally have the materials to make it possible. I'd like to test a sort of "charge induction" into plants as a method for faster or more effective proliferation of my various sprouts. The setup is simple, we plant some seeds and/or sprouts in small pots with a hollow copper cone in the base of the pot, and the same seeds/sprouts in other pots without the copper cones.
Given charge theory and the pyramid focusing potential, I hypothesize that if all other factors are equal the plants with the copper cones should grow better or mature quicker than their copper-cone-less counterparts.
I'd like to know if you guys think I'm missing any variables involved. My plan is to start testing as soon as my last indoor crops-sprouts are done and outside, so my inside sprouting grow lights won't have any other use.
Here's a quick look at my proposed test setup:
4" pots, 3" base diameter copper cones which I'll fabricate from 2" 24g copper strips. So far, the variables I see are:
1. Pot material - terra cotta, plastic, galvanized steel
2. Location/insolation - just need enough consistent lighting for each type, might need two more lights
3. Seed quality - it might be better to start with transplanted seedlings instead of sprouting new seeds, but if the seed packets are uniform sprouting would also be a good test?
4. Equalized soil quality/watering (of course)
5. Polarity or direction of the copper-cut in the sheeting - should I do both grain directions? So half the cones will be oriented at 90° to the others?
6. NO rack stacking - all trays must be receiving equal levels of ambient (Earth's heat) charge
Am I missing any variables here that you guys can see? I mean to proceed but as usual would like input on the topic. As controls I mean to grow equal amounts of each plant type with and without the copper cones, or if tossing in #5 for polarity/chirality then I'll do thirds of each plant type.
Given charge theory and the pyramid focusing potential, I hypothesize that if all other factors are equal the plants with the copper cones should grow better or mature quicker than their copper-cone-less counterparts.
I'd like to know if you guys think I'm missing any variables involved. My plan is to start testing as soon as my last indoor crops-sprouts are done and outside, so my inside sprouting grow lights won't have any other use.
Here's a quick look at my proposed test setup:
4" pots, 3" base diameter copper cones which I'll fabricate from 2" 24g copper strips. So far, the variables I see are:
1. Pot material - terra cotta, plastic, galvanized steel
2. Location/insolation - just need enough consistent lighting for each type, might need two more lights
3. Seed quality - it might be better to start with transplanted seedlings instead of sprouting new seeds, but if the seed packets are uniform sprouting would also be a good test?
4. Equalized soil quality/watering (of course)
5. Polarity or direction of the copper-cut in the sheeting - should I do both grain directions? So half the cones will be oriented at 90° to the others?
6. NO rack stacking - all trays must be receiving equal levels of ambient (Earth's heat) charge
Am I missing any variables here that you guys can see? I mean to proceed but as usual would like input on the topic. As controls I mean to grow equal amounts of each plant type with and without the copper cones, or if tossing in #5 for polarity/chirality then I'll do thirds of each plant type.
Jared Magneson- Posts : 525
Join date : 2016-10-11
Re: Botany Project - testing charge channeling through plants
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Jared, you show growth – are you sitting on a copper cone?
My expertise? I love plants but I can’t keep a houseplant alive. Nevertheless, I’m happy you’ve asked for our inputs, it seems that you’re ready to commit.
With my critical hat on, your experiment shows that the roots will be in direct contact with the copper cones, that seems extreme. Using flower pots with buried copper cones and “plants” seems way too complicated. “Should grow better or mature quicker” involves a great deal of time, effort and variables. I believe you can simplify your inquiry greatly.
Consider the classic medical experiment, a large sheet with rows and columns of petri dishes - with clearly varying experimental results. The large sheet should have cutout circular openings smaller than the petri dishes. Each petri dish will be placed over a circular hole. If you wish to avoid the single layer of petri dish glass between the cone and copper since it may behave as an insulator, replace the petri dish with a natural item. For example, place germinated seeds in a fold of moistened large mesh cheesecloth over each cutout circle. A second sheet, below the first, will be where you place your copper cones - below each cutout opening. You can then then vary the placement and orientations of the copper without having buried it or worrying about copper corrosion, soil conditions, ... . You could quickly learn whether direct contact with copper is beneficial or not.
Take it or leave it. In any case, good luck!
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Jared, you show growth – are you sitting on a copper cone?
My expertise? I love plants but I can’t keep a houseplant alive. Nevertheless, I’m happy you’ve asked for our inputs, it seems that you’re ready to commit.
With my critical hat on, your experiment shows that the roots will be in direct contact with the copper cones, that seems extreme. Using flower pots with buried copper cones and “plants” seems way too complicated. “Should grow better or mature quicker” involves a great deal of time, effort and variables. I believe you can simplify your inquiry greatly.
Consider the classic medical experiment, a large sheet with rows and columns of petri dishes - with clearly varying experimental results. The large sheet should have cutout circular openings smaller than the petri dishes. Each petri dish will be placed over a circular hole. If you wish to avoid the single layer of petri dish glass between the cone and copper since it may behave as an insulator, replace the petri dish with a natural item. For example, place germinated seeds in a fold of moistened large mesh cheesecloth over each cutout circle. A second sheet, below the first, will be where you place your copper cones - below each cutout opening. You can then then vary the placement and orientations of the copper without having buried it or worrying about copper corrosion, soil conditions, ... . You could quickly learn whether direct contact with copper is beneficial or not.
Take it or leave it. In any case, good luck!
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LongtimeAirman- Admin
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Re: Botany Project - testing charge channeling through plants
I think your ideas would work and are much more clinical, but alas I have limited space, funding, and lights for this project. It's kind of a simple test it's true.
The roots won't touch the copper cones until the sprouts are pretty much ready for up-potting though, so I'm not too worried about that yet.
The roots won't touch the copper cones until the sprouts are pretty much ready for up-potting though, so I'm not too worried about that yet.
Jared Magneson- Posts : 525
Join date : 2016-10-11
Re: Botany Project - testing charge channeling through plants
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Now that we’re done with the mowing, where was I? I’d invest in an electrostatic field that slows grass growing.
Small plants in individual pots take up more space.
You use the phrase “charge theory and pyramid focusing potential”. What exactly does Pyramid focusing potential mean? Beside faster growth, what is your working theory? What are you trying to demonstrate? What charge are you trying to channel? Can you electrify the copper? How about copper coils? Is there any related work (sans charge field explanation) you are aware or wish to build upon? My imagination runs riot.
More information would help. Feedback is great if it can shake a new thought or two.
Most important, one learns best by doing.
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Now that we’re done with the mowing, where was I? I’d invest in an electrostatic field that slows grass growing.
Small plants in individual pots take up more space.
You use the phrase “charge theory and pyramid focusing potential”. What exactly does Pyramid focusing potential mean? Beside faster growth, what is your working theory? What are you trying to demonstrate? What charge are you trying to channel? Can you electrify the copper? How about copper coils? Is there any related work (sans charge field explanation) you are aware or wish to build upon? My imagination runs riot.
More information would help. Feedback is great if it can shake a new thought or two.
Most important, one learns best by doing.
.
LongtimeAirman- Admin
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Join date : 2014-08-10
Re: Botany Project - testing charge channeling through plants
A pyramid creates a charge field deficit above it, not an increase. It should also be solid, or fairly solid. You are allowed the occasional burial chamber.
Miles does talk about free electrons rushing back in with the charge field above the pyramid. Is that what you are trying to use?
It might be good to see what happens when you put the cones and plants at increasing distances apart to see if being close or higher above the cone helps.
Miles does talk about free electrons rushing back in with the charge field above the pyramid. Is that what you are trying to use?
It might be good to see what happens when you put the cones and plants at increasing distances apart to see if being close or higher above the cone helps.
Re: Botany Project - testing charge channeling through plants
Sounds like a cool plan/test. I'd like to see the outcome.
The only thought that came to mind was possibly placing the plants-pots on solid-pyramid stands that have their tops cut off at about the size of the pots. Might be more time/money/resources to get this going though.
https://www.fastcodesign.com/3037815/the-great-pyramid-used-to-be-so-shiny-it-glowed
The only thought that came to mind was possibly placing the plants-pots on solid-pyramid stands that have their tops cut off at about the size of the pots. Might be more time/money/resources to get this going though.
https://www.fastcodesign.com/3037815/the-great-pyramid-used-to-be-so-shiny-it-glowed
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